Tuscarora

[Blackbear]

---for discussing Tuscarora Language

[Blackbear]

Tuscarora word of the day: BEADWORK

oo?teeksteh

this is the best I can do without a font. Later I will just scan the words in the proper fonts and attach a pronunciation key.. but for now, the question mark will represent the sound between the vowels in unh-unh.

[Blackbear]

Tuscarora word for the day: SCUM
(not phonetically spelled) uhwahsteh
(phonetically best I can) oohwahsteh

scum on stagnent water......... not that everyone will find this word useful..but heck, call someone who is creeping you out this and make him wonder.

[WarriorBadge]

human mohawk bad speller with terrets syndrome that just learned a skarure word:

uhwahsteh utdah geeduck :bur2:

[Blackbear]

skarure word for the day: Why?
spelled= teher (with an accent mark over the first e which indicates a long vowel)
Phonetically= taa-hair

[Blackbear]

human mohawk bad speller with terrets syndrome that just learned a skarure word:

uhwahsteh utdah geeduck :bur2:


:wow::thumb: Way to go!!!

[nyeh neh noos]

This is great! I love learning new words....especially ones that I can use! Keep it up!

Nyah weh,

tgal

[Blackbear]

Tuscarora word for the day: EAT
spelled= rachu.rih
Phonetically =raa-choo-dee

I've been learning this one off one of the tapes as well. It's nice having the spelling to go with it because the way howard's recording sounds.. one moment it sounds like rachudih and another moment..rachulih.

[nyeh neh noos]

Hey Jolie,

It's my understanding that verbs cannot stand by themselves. At least from the tapes with Howard Hill, he always helps conjugate what each one is. I believe the word thah?choohreeh means YOU EAT.

HE EATS rah?chooreeh
SHE EATS yeh?chooreeh

Let me know if that is what you understand as well. I could certainly be wrong, but let me know what you know!

tgal

[Blackbear]

You know.. I don't really know. I was going by both the tape and the dictionary..but that's a great point you bring up and probably very right! In fact your spelling IS right LOL.. but when you got your copy of this you'll know what i'm saying... and it does'nt help that I have bad hearing either.. sniff

[nyeh neh noos]

Jolie,

I know what you mean about the hearing...some of the tapes are just really tough to hear the information. Also, Howard doesn't always conjugate everything. Sometimes he just provides the verb. It makes it tough to decipher!!!

tgal

[Blackbear]

I know.. I know.. two weeks...I'm slipping.. I guess I have ten words to learn and post this weekend huh?

[Sanj]

I took Tuscarora Language as a kid, and I dont remember much, but I do remember the "bad" words. Go figure

[Blackbear]

LOL what bad words??? Tuscarora did'nt have swear words.. not unless they have been added to...

[PMS Crazy Woman]

LOL what bad words??? Tuscarora did'nt have swear words.. not unless they have been added to...


Unless she means something like Gunah ??? *snickers* Don't even know if that's the correct spelling.. LOL!!
Bubs.. ask Uncle Gene & Aunt Gilly what their e-mail addy is... LOL!! It's that word.. I swear it... last I knew.. LOL!!

[Blackbear]

LOL PMS.. i dont' even know what that means LOL.. Ok so for word of the day let's do Butt... and I'm posting it as I learned it growing up ok? I know the dictionary says something else for buttocks but I'm post BUTT which sounds like heh-cheh.

[Sanj]

Boobs is a common one

soot-neh

[Blackbear]

LOL yeah that was the one i was gonna do next !!

[rjricelny]

Now, this is getting very interesting...

[Blackbear]

LOL I'm surprised no one has tried to find out what my contest word means!! It goes along with this most recent discussion!

[anantas]

I don't think any of those words are bad; it's just the modern American connotation or English interpretation that changes the meaning.

In Ojibwe the word for breast is dodoosh; the word for milk is dodooshabo. The -abo suffix means it is a liquid or something to drink. Nothing bad in either of those words. Although only milk is taught to students.

[Blackbear]

I think it's just our preschool based humor that finds saying body part names funny... kinda like you can still get most guys to laugh just by saying poop.

[WarriorBadge]

LOL I'm surprised no one has tried to find out what my contest word means!! It goes along with this most recent discussion!

yes, tell us what it means :)


:stooges:

[Blackbear]

naw.. you guys need to guess.. I know there's someone out there that knows what it is

[Sanj]

Matthew has some large posts on other forums listing words and their meanings, I don't recall if he has the english spelling on them though, so you can learn how to say it.

[Blackbear]

Did you see over at Owej/hadeg where someone came in and told Matt off? And It was'nt me and got no idea who it is either!!!

[Blackbear]

Ok no promises I can keep th is up daily LOL...but I think I can post a few here today to make up for my slacking off LOL!!!

Uhtye'-kweh= Mischief
Ood-yihn-gweh

[Blackbear]

MOON DOG:

nyuwe'tu'-the?
nyoowindoo-dheh(glutteral stop)

the dictionary has absolutely no definition for this LOL...

[Blackbear]

STOP: wahtha?
phonetically pretty much like you see right here

HE STOPS: rahce'?wahtha?
rahchin wahtha

[Blackbear]

CROW: ah?ah?
aw-aw
RAVEN:Kwe'hkwe'h
gwihn-gwihn

[Blackbear]

ku?r
egad..not sure how to type this phonetically.. but it is the sound of liquid being swallowed or a gulp.
k=g
u=oo
?= glotteral stop
r= this sound is confusing...according to the key, it should be a SS sound like in hiss.. but it could very well be a simple rrrr sound as in run.

[Blackbear]

PANTS: uta?chuhcreh
ootah-ch-huh-ch-reh

Like you put on one leg at a time.

[Blackbear]

COMIC: it is comic--
yutgerhya?t ( e= short a sound as in HAT)
yoot gass hya t

ok this one is tricky to sound out.. if i have it right :stooges:

[Blackbear]

COOK A MEAL: I cook a meal
wa?kyekhwe-ti?
wah? gyagwaydi ?

He cooks
ratkahneh?
rahtgahninh?

that it be cooked
aryu-rihk
ahryoorinhk

one cooked it
wa?ekahne-?
wah? agahnee ?


he cooks it
rarihtha?
rrawrreehthaw?

[bearcat]

nyaweh:gowa

:thumb:

[Blackbear]

since we've already been on the subject...

POOP: Oh:ta
Oh-dah

[Blackbear]

You know, I had a thought... I was thinking about how my guinea pigs' name is Ko-ko-thih but it's not pronounced as COCOA THIGH, ... K sound is like a cross between K and G, very glotteral. So it's pronounced, gkoh gkoh thi. I know with some of the words we use in tuscarora you hear people say nya-weh, while others say it more like now ah.... and I remember growing up hearing it Nyow ah.. I'm not sure exactly which is more correct, but I was thinking syllables like T which are normally said to be pronounced as D could be a combination of the two... such as Oh:ta.. when you are a kid it almost sounds like saying OAT Duh... and C is pronounced as CHee but has a bit of a T sound to it like Tch...
I started thinking about this because of my kids' spelling homework we did with her last night. What do you all think?

[Blackbear]

Cripes... no one even attemted to discuss this? *long sad sigh*... ok back to words

Strawberry : Wi.se.t (there is an accent mark over the i in place of the dot and the e is the in sound) Phonetically : wee-sint

[Blackbear]

Frybread: kata?narehra.heh (the 4th a is a long vowel)
Phonetically: gahdah? nahrinhray.heh

[Blackbear]

Soup: Ukheh (accent mark on the U) Phonetically Ook.hyint

[Blackbear]

Here's one for Bubs...

Reindeer: Oka?nyehsa? (big O is a theta) Phonetically Thgah()nyinh-sah() {gonna use this () as the symbol for gutteral stops in the phonetic spelling from now on ok guys?}

[Blackbear]

I'm testing to see if this works...

http://www.streamload.com/App.asp

[Blackbear]

someone please tell me if that worked

[Craig]

Well it took me to the steamload website what was it posed to do?

[Blackbear]

I was hoping it would give you a link to the file itself...

[Sanj]

Does anyone know where the crazy Tuscarora alphabet came from?